Question & Comments

 Do you have questions or comments about hiking basics or wasatch trails? I would love to discuss them with you. Please post them as comments here.

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  1. Greg Witt says:


    Great website. Nice work. I look forward to visitiing often. Steve Hegji, author of Wasatch Wildflowers referred me to it.

    [WasatchHiker Note] Greg is the author of a great Wasatch hiking book – 60 Hikes Within 60 Miles: Salt Lake City. It contains lots of background for these hikes with natural history, geology and the like.

  2. John says:

    Eric! The site looks great man. We are looking for a good one with a waterfall for the kids. We will be checking back often for the updates. Thanks and looks good.

  3. Eric says:

    Thanks! This time of year there are quite a few waterfalls. If you have younger kids, the hike to the falls in Battlecreek Canyon isn’t too bad. You should also be able to get to the 1st and 2nd falls on the Aspen Grove trail.
    You could also type ‘waterfall’ into the search box on the botton right, and it would list all references on the site.

  4. Jake says:

    Eric, it was nice meeting you just below the summit of Box Elder Peak yesterday. Hope you guys had a nice summit despite the wind, a safe descent, and a good hike. The site looks great. I’m going to utilize it for future hikes.

  5. Eric says:

    Hi Jake, it was good meeting you too. I couldn’t believe how windy it was up there. The last time I was on Box Elder, there was a 7 ft cairn at the top. As you know there is only a 1 ft remnant there now – I’m sure the first one was dismantled by the snow and harsh weather conditions.

  6. Cliff bates says:

    I am trying to find the current status of trails around here. Like how much snow they have or what not. I am not finding a place where people can post that type of data easily and quickly in a central place. Thoughts?

  7. Eric says:

    If you have access to Facebook, I’ve been posting trail conditions of the trails I’ve been on at the FB page – go to or search for from Facebook. Also, there’s a link on each area, trailhead, trail and destination page for people to submit notes on what they see. If everyone posts what they see on either the facebook page or the website page, we will all stay informed.
    For the most part, trails are clear of snow until you get to the higher peaks and basins. North facing slopes have snow a bit lower. The problem I’ve seen the last few weeks is swollen creek crossings and water going down the trails.

  8. BEN says:

    does that cliff on the “timp basin” postcard have climbing up it?!?!?!

  9. Tina Crowder says:

    Eric, I need to know something as soon as possible. We want to hike Dog Lake, and do the easiest route possible. Is the Big Cottonwood Canyon trail easier and shorter than the Mill Creek Canyon one? Also, you say that the access road doesn’t open until July st from Mill Creek, and it looks longer. Greg’s book says the Mill D North Fork trailhead is easy (relatively?) and is about a 5 mile round trip. Is the trail easy to find and easy to follow.

    We used Greg’s book last week to try and find the trailhead to Willow Heights with no success.. an embarrassment to me with my big group I was leading. Also, if you can give me some ideas for moderate hikes around 5 miles long that are in Utah Valley, that would be great. I am trying to toughen these kids up, but they are not ready for super steep inclines yet. I need to notify them of the location of this week’s hike today, so if you can write back and let me know the best (easiest) way to Dog Lake, that would be great.

  10. Eric says:

    Hi Tina,

    There are 4 trails leading to Dog Lake. The easiest is the Little Water route from Millcreek Canyon – it’s 4.1 miles with 1500 ft of elevation gain. I saw vehicle traffic in upper Millcreek from my vantage point on Millvue Peak last Friday, so they must have opened the road early this year. I haven’t driven up there myself yet. Dog Lake via Mill D North Fork in Big Cottonwood is the more popular route, but it’s 5.3 miles with 2000 ft of elevation gain.

    The Little Water/Big Water trailheads are at the very end of the Millcreek road, so they are easy to find. The Little Water trail goes east from the parking lot. At the first junction, go straight (don’t cross the bridge), then turn right at the second junction (immediately after the next bridge).
    From the same parking lot, you can also take the Big Water trail to Dog Lake. It’s a bit longer, but less steep – I haven’t taken this route yet. It starts on the south side of the parking area.

    If you opt for Mill D North Fork in Big Cottonwood, the trailhead is easy to find. As you drive up the canyon, you will come to an elbow in the road where the canyon opens up a bit – this is Reynolds Flat. You’ll see an outhouse on the right side of the road and large parking areas on both sides of the road in that area. You want to park on the north side, across from the outhouse. This where the Mill D North Fork trail starts.

    By the way, the 4th trail goes up Butler Fork, also in Big Cottonwood. It’s longer and steeper than the others, but has great views of Millcreek Canyon when you reach the ridgeline.

    All trails in Utah Valley are steep. 🙂 You can try these:
    Silver Lake from Silver Flat Reservoir
    Mill Canyon Peak – you can get close by taking a dirt road off the Cascade Springs road Pine Hollow Peak – this can be reached from the Pine Hollow trailhead or the Alpine Loop summit ridgeline trail Timpooneke to Julie Andrews Meadows – if you go on this, let me know so I can give you a good description of which trails to take.
    Schoolhouse Springs to 1st or 2nd Hamongog.

    Sorry you didn’t find the Willow Height trailhead. It’s just a rock with a plaque on the side of the road. I found it the first time because a bunch of cars were parked along the road near it (which is a great way to find new trailheads).

    Let me know if you have other questions.


  11. Eric says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’ve never seen people rock climb on the Timp massif. I read somewhere once that the rock breaks off too easily for a safe climb. I googled your question and didn’t come up with anything. Perhaps others reading this blog have a better answer.


  12. Shyla says:

    Do you know on your list of Utah County trails where dogs are allowed, are they allowed off leash once you are out of the parking areas and on the trails?

  13. Eric says:

    There are no dog restrictions on Utah County trails, unless you see it posted at the trailhead. They can also be off leash.

  14. Tina Crowder says:

    Eric, We are going to do the Pipeline trail for a 10-miler (for their Hiking Badge) this Tuesday. I need to know if you can tell me the best way to do an out-an-back (5 each way) and from which point on the trail, that would have the most interest for the boys. I won’t be able to drop a car off at one point and end at another, and since you are familiar with this trail, I thought you could help.

  15. Eric says:

    It’s exactly 5 miles each way if you get on the Pipeline Trail at Burch Hollow and follow it west until you see downtown Salt Lake at the Mill Creek viewpoint. You will cross the Church Fork Trail and the Rattlesnake Gulch Trail on the way – just keep heading west.


  16. Joe says:

    Eric, by any chance were you at the Albion Basin on Sunday afternoon 7/29? I saw someone with a Stratos 24 pack with maps spilling out the zipper. And speaking of the Stratos, it doesn’t appear to have a built-in hydration pack. Has that ever been a problem for you? Thanks for the great resource. It’s given me a great new hobby.

  17. Eric says:

    Hi Joe, Thanks for the compliment. I love it when I can help people see how fun hiking is. I haven’t been to Albion Basin for a while, so that was someone else. I carry a map, but it rarely comes out – I rely on my GPS more. The Stratos 24 doesn’t come with a hydration bag, but there’s a port for the hose on the left side. I used hydration bags when they first became popular, but cleaning them or even refilling them became too tedious for me. Now I just carry 2 Nalgene bottles – they are easy to fill, easy to clean, and with the Stratos, they are easy to reach while I’m walking down the trail. I usually pour gatorade powder into one of them. I occasionally add a hyration pack for extended day hikes, but water weighs 8 pounds a gallon, so a water filter system might be a better solutions if you know you’ll be crossing streams. Eric

  18. Steve says:

    Great site. Thorough information. I’ve done many hikes in Utah, but never the Timp summit all day hike. Kind of amazing since it is the most popular hike. We’re going mid week from the Aspen Grove side (thanks for the heads up on the A. Fork closure). I’m looking for a little more current info on water/hydration. I don’t want to carry more H2O than necessary. Are there good water sources available (we carry filtration product) along the way? Thanks again for your info–best I found during my research!

  19. Eric says:

    Steve, Of all the hikes you could choose in the Wasatch, the Aspen Grove trail probably has the most water sources. The trail passes several streams, waterfalls and cascades as you climb through Primrose Cirque to Emerald Lake. There are no water sources after Emerald Lake, except snow, but you should be able to carry enough water to get to the summit and back to the lake with no problem. Eric

  20. Justin says:

    Is there any problem with camping at the 1st hamongog or the east hamongog?

  21. Eric says:

    It’s perfectly ok to camp in the Hamongogs. They are inside the Lone Peak Wilderness area, so be aware of wilderness regulations and fire restrictions before you go.

  22. Joe says:

    Eric, I’m thinking about Lake Hardy for this weekend. Do I need to carry my water or is there water along the East Hamongog route? Thanks

  23. Eric says:

    Joe, There is a creek crossing between 1st and East Hamongog. There is also a stream that runs out of the lake that might still be flowing.
    Enjoy, that’s a fun hike. Eric

  24. Justin says:

    Can I camp at the first hamongog then hike to lake hardy the next morning?

  25. Eric says:

    Yes, you can camp at the First Hamongog. People also camp at the Second Hamongog, if they go that route, or at the meadow just south of Lake Hardy.


  26. rocio rivera says:

    where do I mail my entrance fee to the canyon

  27. Eric says:

    The areas that require fees are Millcreek Canyon in Salt Lake City and the Alpine Loop, with entrances in American Fork Canyon and Provo North Fork above Aspen Grove. In all locations, you pay the fee at the guard shack at the entrance. If no one is at the shack, they have pay stations at most of the major stops.

  28. Patsy says:

    Hi. I will be attending the Zija International Convention in Salt Lake City Oct. 18,19 and 20th. Although I have been to Salt Lake City before, I have not hiked the area and would like to. Can you tell me a route that is fairly close to the city core? As well, do you have guided tours?

  29. Eric says:

    There are many great hikes in Millcreek Canyon, which is not to far from downtown SLC. To see them, go to the homepage, scroll down near the bottom and click on Millcreek Canyon. I think you will find a lot of good ideas there.
    I don’t have guided tours. If you want to join a group hike, go to the Wasatch Mountain Club website and look at their Calendar of Events. They usually have several group hikes scheduled every week.

  30. Jamie Abel says:

    Hello. I wrote a couple of weeks back on your Facebook page about climbing Olympus on Nov. 16, following a weeklong conference in SLC. I’m hoping the snow holds off until after that — how does the local forecast for the mountain look right now? Also, is there cell service from most of the trail?

  31. Eric says:

    The weather forecast is looking good. We had 1 storm, but the snow has already melted. The forecast isn’t showing anything significant in the next couple of weeks.
    The Mt Olympus trail is in sight of the Salt Lake Valley all the way to the top, so cell coverage should be good. I’ve never tested it myself though.

  32. Tina Crowder says:

    As I am looking at the Jacob’s Ladder trail that we did, I notice that if you continue going east (instead of up that super steep hill we scaled) past Lone Rock towards the Hammongogs, there is a left fork that goes straight up the slabs to Question Mark Wall. What I want to know is what that incline is really like….it just looks like a straight uphill climb on granite. Have you done it? I would rather cut straight across up that hill next time.

  33. Eric says:

    Yes, I’ve climbed it. It’s a steady incline up granite, as you guessed. There is no trail past the 2nd Hamongog, only a few cairns to follow. But you can see the west summit (the south side of Question Mark Wall) all the way up; it’s very difficult to get lost. If you go that way, you should start at the Schoolhouse Springs trailhead instead, and go straight up the mountain through 1st and 2nd Hamongogs. It’s much shorter than starting at the Jacobs Ladder trail – the trail stays pretty much level between Jacobs Ladder and 2nd Hamongog, so you don’t make any progress on the vertical gain necessary to climb Lone Peak. I think the Schoolhouse Springs trail is one of the easier ways to climb Lone Peak.

  34. Trevor says:

    Are there any good winter hikes in Utah County that can be done without snow shoes?

  35. Eric says:

    Many of the lower elevation trails along the eastern benches are great winter hikes, even without snowshoes. There are enough people going up and down the trails they are usually packed within a few days of any snowstorm. A few great winter trails in Utah Valley include Y Mountain, Rock Canyon, Squaw Peak road (which is closed to vehicles in the winter), the Provo Canyon trail, Big Springs, Dry Canyon, Battle Creek, Grove Creek, Silver Flat Reservior, Dry Creek Canyon and the Hamongog trail. One you get higher, above 7000 feet, you need to be aware of avalanche conditions. Be sure to read the forecast from the Utah Avalanche Center before you leave.

  36. Chelsea says:

    I’m looking for a good hike that I can take a group of teenage girls on. We’d like to back pack in and spend the night. We’re
    in Utah county

  37. Eric says:

    Hi Chelsea, There are many good locations to hike and camp in Utah Valley. Starting at the north end, the 2nd Hamongog, Silver Flat Reservoir, Holman Flat, Dutchman Flat, Salamander Flat, Ridgeline Trail, Sagebrush Flat, Timp Basin, any of the canyons west of Timpanogos, Hidden Lakes (might still have snow), Rock Canyon Campground and Bear Flat. Let me know if you need specific information on any of these places.

  38. Shyra says:

    Hi, Tina C. told me to contact you about going from Rock Canyon park in Provo to essentially just south of South Fork. I saw on your map (thanks!!! That map ROCKS!) that it would be the Rock canyon to dry fork to cascade saddle to big springs hollow- I need some input as to how long you think that would take for slow hikers (I want to backpack this with my kids) and if you have any person insight to where we should camp over night at, etc. Any help would be great! Thanks!

  39. Eric says:

    Hi Shyra, I haven’t been over that whole trail (I hope to do it this summer), but I have hiked both ends. You can see videos if you search Big Springs and Rock Canyon on this site. Rock Canyon trailhead to Big Springs trailhead is around 12 miles with 4700 feet of elevation gain. Are you kids teenagers? I’ve found teenagers hike around 1 to 1.5 miles per hour. If you have younger kids they would be slower. With the elevation gain, it would probably take a total of 10-12 hours. In looking at the map, the best places to camp would be in the Rock Canyon campground (just before crossing the Squaw Peak road) or somewhere in the upper Dry Fork basin. I haven’t been to the basin yet, so I can’t say for sure. Have fun!

  40. Tina told me about you a long time ago and I forgot to visit your website then but she reminded me again today so here I am. Also, Greg Witt, who is a good friend of mine and a great award winning author, just sent you a message as well. This website really is amazing!! I will be sharing it with my 3000 hiking followers! Question: I have been taking my hiking group to visit several waterfalls in Utah and we are headed to Scout Falls at the Timpanookee Trail. How far up the trail is it clear of snow? At least 2 miles up? How about the parking lot at the trailhead? Is it open and also is American Fork Canyon open to get up to that parking lot. I know the Wasatch Front quite well, but need someone to be my eyes in Utah County area. Also, just got back from hiking Bullion Falls in Marysvale area, Fishlake NF. Great hike for the whole family and Miner’s Park is also a MUST, which is just 1/4 mile up the dirt road from the trailhead. This was a big old mining area in the 1800’s! Really great hike in less than 3 miles RT.

  41. Eric says:

    Hi Sheryl, I think I actually told Tina about your site when I first met her. She was looking for ways to connect with other hikers. I’ve always enjoyed your story, and how hiking improved your life. I think I wrote to you several years ago too. I haven’t heard from Greg recently, but we emailed back and forth a bit a few years ago before he left for Switzerland for the summer.
    I appreciate that you like my site and are willing share it with your hiking followers. I love helping people get out and explore the great outdoors. The interactive map was just added this year, and the Facebook group page is used to educate and inform hikers with current news and videos.
    The Alpine Loop is closed until Memorial Day (5 more days). I haven’t been up there to see conditions, but here’s a trick I use – think about similar trails you have been on recently that have the same elevation and aspect. For example, Days Fork in Big Cottonwood is the same elevation (7300ft) and aspect (north-facing) as the Timpooneke trail to Scout Falls. Conditions should be similar. Provo mountains received less snow this year than Salt Lake mountains did, so conditions might be slightly better there.
    Thanks for writing. Perhaps we’ll meet upsomeday on the trail. Eric

  42. Marcene says:

    does anyone know if there is still snow on the trail from Lamb’s canyon over to Millcreek. Am I correct in assuming that the Millcreek side is dry?

  43. Eric says:

    I haven’t been on the trail recently, but I can see from Salt Lake Valley the only remaining snow is on the ridgeline up to Millvue Peak. There might be patches near the saddle on the Lambs Canyon side. Just FYI, the road in Upper Millcreek is closed until July 1st, so you would have to walk down it from Elbow Fork.

  44. Katie says:

    Is the trail up to Lake Solitaire free of snow yet? Thanks.

  45. Eric says:

    Katie, I haven’t been in the Solitude area recently, but based on what I’ve seen in other areas of the same elevation, I think there is still snow there (it’s also on a north-facing slope). That’s a popular trail from Silver Lake though, so if there is snow, it’s probably packed down.

  46. Matt says:

    Myself and my girlfriend will be down in the Wasatch range for approximately 4 days later this month. We are looking for a good two – three day loop or trail that is dog friendly, trails are well marked, with good water access, limited snow and has simple river crossing. I know this is a tall order but your expertise would be greatly appreciated.


  47. Eric says:

    Matt, There are not many areas in the Wasatch that match your description. The Wasatch range is a series of canyons. There are no rivers, but every canyon has creeks flowing out of them. Dogs are prohibited in the watersheds east of Salt Lake, so you would have to go south to Utah County. Upper American Fork Canyon would be the best choice – you could explore the Silver Creek, Mary Ellen Gulch and Mineral Basin areas.
    For wide open wilderness though, I would recommend looking at a trip to the Uinta mountains, 1-2 hours east of the Wasatch. Kings Peak is always a good 2-3 day trip. Check out the area on –

  48. Justin says:

    Planning on hiking to lake hardy. Is it a stocked lake has anybody caught any fish their if so what kind?

  49. Eric says:

    The lakes is stocked with native trout, but I don’t know the schedule of when it’s done. Give the Pleasant Grove district office of the Forest Service a call – they should be able to help

  50. Mikel says:

    Comment – love your site! Question: I have a friend flying through Salt Lake and we have exactly 3.5 hours from the time I pick him up to the time I drop him off. I’d like to take him on a hike where he can experience some of the beauty of the Wasatch mountains. I’m thinking Salt Lake County and possibly waterfalls with great views and mountain vistas. Do you have any recommendations? We don’t have to make it all the way to the top of any trail. What would you recommend?

  51. Austin says:

    Is there a way to access your map through google earth. That I way I’d get a little bigger box to look at the map through and shut off the labels at times to see things better when panning out etc. Very impressive what you’ve done. I’ve been looking for somebody that really has the whole package as far as being able to learn the connections between all the trailheads and destinations.

  52. Eric says:

    Hi, The best one where you would have time to see nature and good views would be the Desolation trail to the Salt Lake overlook in Millcreek Canyon. The Church Fork trail in the same canyon might also be a good choice.

  53. Eric says:

    Hi Austin, I like using Google Earth better also. The best way for you to do that would be to have access to the KML file. I need to look into how I can share it securely. I’m currently out of the country. Would mind shooting me an email the first week of July, when I have better access to my servers and tools?
    Thanks, Eric
    [email protected]

  54. Chris says:

    Hey Eric, we are thinking of doing Mt Timpanogos on a Scout hike in July and wondering if length and distance may be too much for our schedule and level of the boys. What do you think? Also do you know of other really cool hikes to do in the area that may be a little shorter and still be a great experiance.


  55. Eric says:

    Chris, I climbed My Timp with a troop and 2 of my sons. Most of the troop made it. Plan on slower leaders and scouts not making it all the way, and the rest taking longer than usual – 10-12 hours.
    Other places to take scouts- AF Silver Lake, Sunset Peak, Cobblers Knob, White Pine Lake and Box Elder Peak.

  56. P. King says:

    I am an avid rattle snake photographer. I find many rattle snakes up along Shoreline Trail near the university and signs are posted alerting hikers to be aware. I have been hiking in Bell Canyon in Sandy and a few trail heads in Draper, but haven’t seen any rattle snakes or any alert signs. Rattle snakes do inhabit these sites don’t they?

  57. Eric says:

    I hike quite a bit in the east bench areas, and have never seen rattle snakes. Their normal habitat is open rocky areas so they are probably there, but perhaps they stay away from the trails. Check the rattlesnake article I posted on the WasatchHiker facebook page earlier this year – it might have more information for you.

  58. Darrin says:

    I am backpacking to Lake Blanche for the first time later this month. Is there a trail that will take me to Twin Peaks from there or should I just enjoy those three lakes and summit on the other trail?

  59. Eric says:

    Darrin, There’s not an established trail that goes from the top of Mill B South Fork to Broads Fork Canyon, but you can cross from canyon to canyon – some friends of mine did it just last week. From Lake Blanche, head southwest toward a notch in the ridgeline. Once you get there if you have good mountaineering skills, you can traverse over Dromedary Peak and Sunrise Peak to Twin Peaks. If you just want to just go to Twin Peaks, drop down at the notch, then climb back up to the saddle southeast of Twin Peaks.

  60. marcene says:

    Does anyone know the mileage to Outlaw Cabin via the Cherry Canyon Logging Trail (bear canyon trail/lone peak)?

  61. Cindy says:

    I am new at hiking and am looking for a good vacation spot. I came across this area looking at moose sites, do you see any on the trails. I don’t want to go far out though especially being inexperienced. Thanks for your site.

  62. Eric says:

    Yes, I see moose quite often. There are always moose on either of the Mt Timpanogos trails. I see them in other areas too, but they are not as predictable. Timpanogos also has a good size Mountain Goat herd in the Emerald Lake area.

  63. Eric says:

    From the Orson Smith TH, the Outlaw Cabin is around 5.3 miles via the Cherry Canyon trail.

  64. Cindy says:

    I heard it is hunting season in October. We are planning on vacationing around the 9th thru the 13th. Everyone is telling us we won’t see any because of the hunting season. Do you know where we can see them. When we went to Colorado we only saw one by the road. Thank you

  65. Eric says:

    Hi Cindy, The wildlife are still there, even through hunting season. I haven’t seen hunters on the 2 Timpanogos trails. I think it’s legal for them to hunt there, but they might stay away because of the high hiker traffic. I can’t guarantee where the moose will be, but I’ve seen them on the Timpooneke trail in the Giant Staircase area nearly every time I’ve hiked it – I saw a cow and calf moose when I was there just a month ago. I’ve also seen them on the Aspen Grove trail nearly every time, between the trailhead and the lower Timp falls.

  66. Garry says:

    Hi Eric, I will be in the uintas wasatch area in late Aug and am looking for a two day hike (15-20 miles), 7000 – 10000 ft altitude with no more than 1000 elevation gain. Can you recommend something? Thanks

  67. Eric says:

    Hi Garry
    It will be hard to find a 15-20 mile hike in the Wasatch Mountains with no more than 1000 ft elevation gain – most trails are very steep. Your best bet is to start high and hike toward a lower destination, such as the Wasatch Crest trail. It starts at Guardsman Pass and ends at Big Water trailhead. You could make it longer by taking the fork above Desolation Lake and following the Desolation Trail toward Dog Lake and on to the Thayne Canyon trailhead.
    The Uinta Mountains are a separate range to the east of the Wasatch. I’m not familiar with trails there.

  68. Ron says:

    I have a service. Is she allowed on the Silver Lake trail?


  69. Eric says:

    Hi Ron, There are 2 Silver Lakes. All dogs are allowed on the Silver Lake trail in American Fork Canyon. Service Dogs are allowed at Silver Lake in Big Cottonwood Canyon, but there are guidelines. Please refer to for more details.

  70. Jon says:

    My sister and I are looking to do a 2-3 day hike during the week that straddles Oct. Nov. We are both experienced and will have appropriate clothing. That said we don’t want to get into trouble or enjoy being excessively cold. We’re looking to enjoy the scenery so we an’t looking to push overly hard during the day so about 8-10 miles depending on severity. Any help would be welcome. Thanks

  71. Eric says:

    Hi Jon, for a 2-3 day hike in the Wasatch, you might enjoy the Desolation Trail that starts in Millcreek Canyon. You could take in a few peaks and a few lakes. You might also enjoy doing a section of the Great Western Trail that goes through our area. If those don’t interest you, look into a hike into the Uinta mountain range to the east. The Wasatch mountains aren’t particularly known for multi-day hikes. Most people in the Salt Lake area will travel to the Uintas for that. Good luck, and have fun.

  72. Shauna says:

    We are planning on doing the hike to Lone Peak via Jacob’s ladder tomorrow. My dad is worried about snow on the rocks for the scramble up. Will there be snow here? I told him that there will not be any freezing temps before then and it is forecasted to be clear and in the mid 60s tomorrow. Is there any reason to worry? We will have 8-9 of us including my 16 year old son.

  73. Eric says:

    Hi Shauna, There is light snow on the ground down to the 8000 foot level on the south-facing Jacobs Ladder trail. The snow level will grow to a few inches as you go higher. Jacobs Ladder is really steep until you get to the 9000 ft Draper Ridge level. The temperature will drop about 5 degrees for every 1000 of elevation gain, so if it’s 60 in the valleys it will be around 30-35 degrees on the peak. If the wind is blowing at all, wind chill will make it seem colder. If it gets above 35, snow will start melting making everything wet. The granite (quartz monzonite)doesn’t get too slick unless there are icy conditions. If you dress and prepare for those conditions, I think you all will have a fun time. I plan to get out – fall colors draped in the white stuff sounds too appealing not to venture out.

  74. David says:

    Hi Eric,

    A couple of guys and I plan to hike Timp from Aspen Grove on Monday the 14th of Oct.
    Is this feasible with the weather/snow? If so, anything special we should take to not get dominated?

  75. Eric says:

    The forecast shows there might be rain, but I think you have a good chance to have great weather, especially if you leave early. The high in the valley is forecasted to be in the 50’s. It will be 20-25 degrees cooler on the summit, so dress accordingly. The trail should be hikable the whole way. You will run into snow around the 8-9000 foot level. Micro spikes will help with traction on icy areas. Be care in the area called the stairs, just past the Timp Saddle. It’s steep and might be slick. Have fun!

  76. Ryan Trimble says:

    I just gotta tell you how much I love Wasatch Hiker. Such a great service! It’s the only site I need to help me explore the Wasatch Range. Thanks.

  77. Eric says:

    Thanks Ryan, I appreciate that. There’s nothing better than exploring. I enjoy sharing knowledge and experience, so it’s a win-win.

  78. Willem says:

    I have to agree with Ryan, great website & database of trails. I’m new to SLC and this summer I’ve used the site every Sunday morning to pick a hike, mostly in mill creek.

    Today I’m a bit worried about the snow, but I need my hiking fix!

  79. Eric says:

    Thanks! Yes, it looks like we’ll have snow, but that can be fun too. The Mill Creek road should be closing for the season soon, just past the Porter Fork Road. Lots of people snowshoe, hike or ski the road in the winter. And if you’re adventurous, you can rent the yurt they put up in the Big Water parking lot – I’m sure you’ve seen the platform for it just south of the outhouse.

  80. Angee says:

    I have been enjoying your site and am looking at hiking to the Julie Andrews Meadow. Do you know what part of the Timpooneke campground I could pick up the trail in?

  81. Eric says:

    Hi Angee, Thanks! To get to the campground TH continue past the Timpooneke TH. Turn left at the 2nd campground road (the first is the exit). Drive on it straight until the road bends to the left. There is a side road on the right with a gate. Park and walk past the gate. You will see a trail on the right shortly. That’s where you want to go. Let me know if you want an image, I’ll email it to you. You can also see it on the map at –


  82. tracey says:

    I have a group of about 40 girls to take on a 2 day backpacking easy to moderate hike. I am finding that a groups this size is hard to find a hike for because of trail size limits. HELP!!! Our dates for the hike are June 26 – 28 of 2014.

  83. Eric says:

    With 40 girls, any designated wilderness area is out, as those have a 14 person limit. I believe you should be able to still find a suitable non-wilderness areas though. Areas include upper Big and Little Cottonwood Canyons, American Fork Canyon and the mountains above Provo. The US Forest Service has jurisdiction over those areas, so call or visit them to get specific restrictions. They can also give you ideas of where to go.

  84. Talia says:

    I’m taking a group of about 30 people on an overnight hike. I need a 6-8 mile round trip hike that allows camping. I’m not from the salt lake area and need help finding a good hike. Hiking to a lake would be fun. Anywhere from Logan to Utah county. Thank you!

  85. Eric says:

    Hi Talia, A group of 30 eliminates any of the designated wilderness areas (Twin Peaks, Lone Peak and Timpanogos), where there is a 14 person limit. Swimming is prohibited in most Wasatch lakes because they are watershed for the metro areas. For a great backcountry experience, I recommend an overnighter in the Uinta Mountains. They are 1-2 hours east of Salt Lake, and have many lakes and other areas that would provide an awesome outdoor experience. You will also likely see less people. If you really want an overnighter in the Wasatch, Upper American Fork Canyon or Logan Canyon are your best bets. Good luck, Eric

  86. Phyllis says:

    I am visiting Salt Lake at the end of May, and hope to do some day hikes.
    What is likely to be the status of the trails (and trailheads) in terms of snow? Is there an area with interesting hiking that is likely to have clear trails?
    Many thanks,

  87. Eric says:

    Hi Phyllis, By the end of May, most lower elevation trails will be clear, and the higher popular trails will be packed down enough you won’t need snowshoes, just microspikes for icy conditions. The higher peaks and basins should still be covered with snow, unless our snow drought continues. One of the more popular lower elevation destinations is Mt Olympus. The trail leaves from the east side of the valley, and has great views at the top. The last section is class 3 (requires hands to climb), but it’s not too bad.

  88. Clayton says:

    I love your website, it is very informative. I’ve become very passionate about hiking the last few years and your site has many hikes I’ve never heard of, I have a facebook page I just started in January called, Wasatch Weekly Hikes, I was wondering with your permission, if I could mention your website as a reference to info on hiking. I love to share my experiences with the amazing trails we have here, thanks.

  89. Eric says:

    Hi Clayton, Great to hear there are other people out there with the same passion for hiking. Yes, of course you can mention my website on your Facebook page. The 2 driving goals for is to provide a resource for people to learn how to get started with hiking, and where to find Wasatch trailheads, trails and destinations. I’m sending an email to your address with some other comments and questions.

  90. Staci Creswell says:

    Is it possible to camp near Sugarloaf Peak? I have a group of about 12 girls. I noticed that there was a # limit but haven’t been able to find info on campsites or just places to pitch a tent.


  91. Eric says:

    Hi Staci, Do you want an easy hike or a hard one? The closest place to camp on the north is Albion Basin, which is 1.2 miles NE of the peak. During the summer, you can drive right up to the Albion Basin CG. The road is closed at Alta the rest of the year. If you want a more difficult hike, you get to the peak from American Fork Canyon and camp near Pittsburg Lake.

  92. Stacie Baker says:

    Can anyone tell me if there are water sources along the Wasatch Crest Trail from Guardsmans Pass TH
    via Elbow Fork???
    Thanks folks!

  93. Eric says:

    Hi Stacie, There are no reliable water sources along most of the Wasatch Crest. The trail goes a several hundred vertical feet above a few lakes (Willow, Desolation), but access and water quality aren’t the best. The trail goes near a few creeks as it gets closer to the Big Water parking area.


  94. Stuart says:

    Hello all, I am more of a destination hiker rather than a mileage hiker. I have generally used a week of vacation to hike and camp, usually in the Wind Rivers or Unitas, I want to get into 3 day hikes which would require me to stay here in the Wasatch range. My question is, what is the best way to find trails that go to a place to camp and fish. Something like 3 to 7 miles in.

  95. Eric says:

    Hi Stuart,
    First, go to and either enter the term “lake” in the search box, or explore the destination links under each canyon. Once you find lakes that sound interesting, click on the links to get location and distance information. We have over 30 lakes in the Wasatch. Find out if your choices have been stocked recently by going to this link:

  96. Jenifer says:

    I’m visiting until the end of May and was hoping to do some hiking. Wanted to hike to Mirror Lake and Cecret Lake but it seems they aren’t currently accessible. How can I find out which roads and trails are currently available to hike? Would also love some suggestions on hikes for my family. We like somewhat easy trails (I have a 1.5 year old and a 3 year old) but aren’t opposed to a bit of elevation gain. Preferably under 4 miles round trip. Would love a lake or waterfall destination, or something offering spectacular views. Any suggestions for me? Thank you so much!!

  97. Sam says:

    Hi Eric,
    My husband and I have never backpacked before and are looking to try out our gear this weekend. Where would you recommend going for 1 night in the greater northern Utah area? We’re locals, and just want to get out and enjoy being outdoors! We’re good hikers, so we don’t mind steep or technical, but we just want to hike 1 day, spend the night and hike back. Thank you!

  98. Eric says:

    Hi Jenifer, UDOT wants to have the Mirror Lake Highway open by this weekend. The road to Albion Basin, where the summer hike to Cecret Lake starts, is closed until mid July. Walking up the road only adds about 2.4 miles each direction. There is probably still a lot of snow there. If you don’t want to hike in snow, you will need to stay below 9000 feet. Some short hikes include Rocky Mouth Falls, Lower Bells Reservoir, Donut Falls, Horsetail Falls, Timpanogos Cave and Battle Creek Falls. Dog Lake is a little longer, but is a nice hike. Look these up on this site for more information.

  99. Eric says:

    Hi Sam, I assume you don’t want to camp in snow, in which case you’ll want to stay below 9000 feet. One great location is the 2nd Hamongog, south of Lone Peak – get to it from Alpine. Also look up Dog Lake, Sagebrush Flat (via Battlecreek or Grove Creek Canyons), Broads Fork and Lake Blanche.

  100. sarah says:

    Hi Eric,

    Myself and my two small dogs are moving out to SLC next month from London, UK. A big draw to make this move are the mountains and all the hiking we can do. My question is about dangers that we – both small dog and human – may encounter that we are not accustomed to. We are used to hiking in Scotland where the most dangerous/annoying animal is the midge! So could you share some advice or point me in the right direction to find out about the new hazards we will find in Utah? Particularly animal/bird/reptile threats and what is best to do to keep the dogs and myself safe if we are hiking alone? I want to get out there and not be terrified, but it’s worth being aware and prepared!

    Thank you!!


  101. Eric says:

    Hi Sarah, Animal attacks are rare in the Wasatch Mountains. People worry most about bears, cougars, moose and maybe rattlesnakes. Bears and cougars are elusive – they want to avoid you as much as you want to avoid them. Moose will leave you alone as long as you give them plenty of room. Barking dogs have been known to agitate them though. Rattlesnakes might be present in rocky areas, but just listen for their distinctive rattle, and give them a 20 foot space. Other animals like deer, elk, mountain goats and sheep, are harmless. We have a few birds of prey, but they usually leave domesticated animals alone. One item to note; dogs are not allowed in several of the Salt Lake Valley canyons. See details in the canyons section on the from page of

  102. Tom Shorten says:

    I am planning on hiking from Parleys Canyon to Mill Creek Canyon. I am new herefrom Oregon. Where can I legally camp for the night between those two canyons?

  103. Eric says:

    Hi Tom, there are no camping restrictions between those 2 canyons, so you can camp anywhere you find a good spot. The only real camping restrictions we have in the Wasatch are; no camping within the posted distance from water or popular areas, and no more than 14 per group in designated wilderness areas. Of Course ‘Leave No Trace’ guidelines apply. Check with the Forest Service about fire restrictions if you plan to have any type of fire.

  104. Parker says:


    My brother is coming in from out of town next month and we want to camp and run/hike some of the tallest peaks in the Wasatch. Do you have any suggestion on where a good camping spot would be that would give us access to lots of peaks? We don’t mind 20-30 mile days. Thanks!

  105. Nathan says:

    Is it possible to hike along the wasatch ridgeline, say from just east of ogden canyon to somewhere around baer or farmington canyon? We’re trying to hit all those peaks in one big dayhike along the very top ridge of the mountains.

  106. Tracy Riddle says:

    My son and I want to hike the Pfeifferhorn July 5, can you tell me if there is still too much snow? Will we need crampons? BTW I love this website!

  107. Ryan says:

    Thank you for this website! I am getting back into backpacking and hiking, and until now haven’t found any resource as helpful or comprehensive as your site for exploring the Wasatch mountains. Thank you so much for this! I now have lots of ideas for where to go next.

    I wish I could take your site with me into the mountains! Since I can’t, I have a question about maps. I saw your Facebook post about your Wasatch Trails Map that you use to keep track of your adventures. That map looks great. Is it like a wall map or can you carry it with you when you go hiking? Also, it doesn’t appear to include any areas south of Provo Canyon. I am also interested in a good trails map detailing the trails and destinations between Provo Canyon and Hobble Creek Canyon (the Squaw Peak Road area). Any suggestions on good maps of this area? Thanks!

  108. Eric says:

    Hi Ryan, The Wasatch Trails map is a fold up map you can take with you. It’s made with good paper, but doesn’t feel water-resistant.
    For some reason, map makers don’t think people are interested in maps covering Provo Canyon to Nebo loop. There are no printed maps of that area other then quads (if anyone knows of one, please let me know). I had to go into Map World to have a special one made to track my hikes there. I think it cost $10-15. I have outlined the trails I could find in that area on – Open a Chrome browser, and goto (this map doesn’t work in Internet Explorer), then drag the map down to the Squaw Peak road area.


  109. Eric says:

    Hi Tracy, Some friend hiked Pfeifferhorn today. They encountered snow, but easily traversed it without crampons. If you’re on facebook, here are a few pictures they took –

  110. Eric says:

    Hi Nathan, Unfortunately, I can’t answer your question. I’m familiar with trails from Provo to Parleys Canyon, but not many north of there. Check They might have the info you’re looking for.

  111. Eric says:

    Hi Parker, the largest cluster of high mountain peaks in the Wasatch are in the 2 Cottonwood Canyons. The Alpine Ridge, Cottonwood Ridge and Millcreek Ridge all converge in Upper Big Cottonwood Canyon. You could camp at Catherine Lake or even Albion Basin in Little Cottonwood to be centrally located to these mountain ranges. See the map at for details (open with a Chrome browser).

  112. Dave says:

    Hi Eric – Thanks for your time and effort putting all of this information together. I am new to area and your site has been a great resource for planning several solo and family day hikes. I’m thinking about taking a couple overnight trips soon. What is the proper protocol for stashing food when camping in the Wasatch (not at designated campgrounds)? Hang a bag, carry a canister, or is it a non-issue? Thanks!

  113. Eric says:

    Hi Dave, Welcome to the Wasatch! Storing food while backpacking in the Wasatch is somewhat a non-issue. Just follow standard safety guidelines – don’t sleep in clothes you cook in, cook away from your sleeping area, don’t leave food out, etc. To be safe, you could hang a bag, but there are no policies to do that.

  114. Sydne says:

    We’re thinking of backpacking the trail up Mt. Timp. Is there camping there?

  115. Eric says:

    People camp in Timp Basin on the Timpooneke trail, and around Hidden Lakes and Emerald Lake on the Aspen Grove trail.

  116. Jared says:

    This site is a great resource! Thank you! I have a question about the maps. Can you please tell me the difference between blue and red, dotted and not, lines on the maps.

  117. Candace says:

    How much snow is on the Timpooneke Trail right now? I’m interested in hiking Mt. Timp soon. Thanks!

  118. Eric says:

    I think it’s mostly gone now. I know people have been hiking both trails for nearly a month now.

  119. Eric says:

    Hi Jared, You must be looking at the old maps. red lines are trails, blue lines are roads. Solid is year round, dotted is closed in the winter. Check out the new maps that shows all trails overlaid onto google earth –

  120. Christel Fund says:

    Hi! My sons’ scout troops are planning to climb up to Lone Peak on Friday… They’re planning on hiking for a few hours on Friday then camp for the night, and then go all the way to the top on Saturday morning. Do you think it’s safe for a group of boys ranging from 12 to 16 year old to go there?

  121. Eric says:

    Hi Christel,
    It depends on which route they take. Any route started in Salt Lake Valley can be safely hiked up to the Lone Peak Cirque. After that, more advanced hiking skills are needed, especially the last quarter mile where there is some exposure on high cliffs. The route from Alpine through the Hammongogs is safe to be hiked by scouts all the way to the south summit. Any attempt to traverse over to the true summit from there should be avoided by all except experienced climbers. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions.

  122. Doug says:

    So first off thanks for your incredible website! You can tell a ton of time has been poured into it. I hiked Red Baldy from Silver Lake a couple of weeks ago thanks for posting info about it, it was very helpful. Which got me to thinking you are clearly one of the most knowledgeable Wasatch hikers around, would you be willing to impart some of your favorites with the rest of us? I’ve listed a few categories but feel free to answer any or none. Again thanks for all of your time you’ve put into this website!
    Top short hikes 1-4 miles
    Top medium hikes 5-8 miles
    Favorite peak(s)
    Favorite crowd less hike(s)
    Favorite night hike(s)
    Favorite fall hike(s)
    Favorite family hike(s)

  123. Eric says:

    Hi Doug,

    Thanks! I’ve literally put thousands of hours into the site over the last few years, but I really enjoy it. I’m glad you find the site useful. I’ve hiked around 80% of the trails in the WasatchHiker database (see the hike tracking map I recently posted in the group page in Facebook), and am always searching for new trails. My favorite trails are too numerous to list, since each trail and destination is beautiful in its own way. When I hike, I try to visit places I haven’t been before, and try to not repeat the same trail more than once a year. I also like to hike trails in different seasons (including winter) to see them from a different perspective. I love hiking in alpine topography above tree line, or along ridgelines where I can see for miles. As a general rule, if I want to hike trails where there are likely other people, I hike in Salt Lake County, and if I want solitude, I hike in Utah County. Some of my favorite family hikes are Silver Lake (both AF and BCC), Dog Lake, Cecret Lake and a new one I found this summer – Alpine Loop Summit TH to Primrose Cirque overlook via Horse Flat.
    I hope that answers some of your questions. Thanks for asking.

  124. Kari says:

    I have a 5 month old baby. Would it be safe to hike with him to the top in a backpack if I have walking sticks??

  125. Eric says:

    Hi Kari, you didn’t mention which mountain you would like to climb. If it’s something like Mt Baldy or Buffalo Peak, then it’s probably safe. If it’s something like Twin Peaks or Mt Timpanogos, I wouldn’t recommend it. I see many people carrying their young ones in child carrier, but it’s usually in lower elevations. Here’s a warning from a carrier manufacturer: Your child must be capable of holding his or her head upright and sitting up without assistance. Usually a child older than 6 months is able to do this. It is a good idea to ask your pediatrician if your child is ready to ride in a child carrier.

  126. Wade says:

    Just wanted to pass along that I was on a hike today to Mill Canyon Peak from Mill Canyon Trailhead ( and it appears that this year they re-routed the trail a bit. I had looked at the link above plus my own map I purchased a couple years ago and the new trail is definitely different. Still gets you to the same spot but distances may be slightly different.

    Thanks for all the info. Love the site and visit often.

  127. Eric says:

    Hi Wade, thanks for the update. I’ll try to get up there to check it out and update my maps.

  128. Phil brown says:

    Hi, I am travelling to Salt Lake City in November from the UK.
    Can you give me some information on day routes and distances from the city please as that is where I will be staying.
    I will be bringing ice axe and crampons but nothing to technical please as I will be alone.
    Many thanks,

  129. Eric says:

    Hi Phil, I don’t think you will need an ice axe or crampons in November. We don’t get the good stuff until December or January. The mountains are against the eastern edge of the city, so you could be at a climbing site in 10 minutes. This website,, focuses on day hiking. If you’re looking for climbing routes, check out I see people climbing frequently in Big and Little Cottonwood Canyons.

  130. Phil says:

    Hi Eric,
    Thank you for your speedy response .
    Can I congratulate you on your website it is first class.
    Looking forward to my time in the wasatch hope to see you there.

  131. Phil says:

    Hi Eric its Phil again !
    I have bought 60 hikes within 60 miles (other publications are available I’m sure ! )
    My trip is going to be the first week in November and I am looking to do the following routes :-
    Hidden peak and Twin peaks from the Snowbird aerial tram,Bells Canyon from the Granite trailhead and Silver lake from Silver Lake Flat.
    Can you please advise me on any access issues you think I may have and wether you think these routes are achievable at this time of year .
    Many thanks,

  132. Eric says:

    Hi Phil, Here are my thoughts on each of your selections:
    -Hidden Peak and Twin Peaks from Snowbird Tram – the tram ends at the summit of Hidden Peak, so that should be an easy one for you. The hike over to Twin Peaks isn’t terribly long, but it crosses a knife edge with lots of exposure. The average snowfall at Snowbird in November is 71 inches, which usually comes later in the month. Average daytime highs is 37 degrees Fahrenheit. This hike might be better earlier in the year, but it’s your choice.
    -Bells Canyon from Granite Trailhead – this trail is a bit lower in elevation, so less snow and warmer temperatures (not much). It’s steep, but a great hike. You won’t see many people (or none) after the first falls.
    -Silver Lake from Silver Flat Reservoir – Also a great hike. The trailhead itself is a great destination. The last few miles of the road to the trailhead is dirt. The road is closed above Tibble Fork after the first snow falls, but you should be ok the first week of November.

  133. Shannon says:

    Great site with a lot of good information. I am wondering about a hike with fall foliage somewhere Provo- Payson maybe 4 hours

  134. Eric says:

    Fall colors are coming on in most places where there are maple and oak. Aspen might even be starting. I would say just go to your favorite trail in the mountains and it’s likely you will see great colors. Perhaps the Nebo Loop?

  135. Michael says:

    I was wondering if the top of Timp is accessible all year round? Do the trail close?

  136. Lori says:

    Hi Eric, uUr family is planning on hiking Mt. Nebo for the first time this Sat. Oct 11 and I am wondering if you have some tips for this time of year. We have summited Loafer, Spanish fork peak, Timp, Provo Peak, and want to try the biggie. Also, I am a little concerned about the knife’s edge you have to cross to summit. How is it compared to other such narrow crossings like up to Mt. Timp or Pfiferhorn? My husband and I hiked Pfiferhorn, but I didn’t want to try the Knife’s edge there, I got anxious about going up the rock face just up from the boulders before we even got to the knife’s edge. A little comparison here would be helpful. Mt. Timp didn’t make me too nervous. What do you think? Thanks, Lori O

  137. Eric says:

    The trails to Mt Timp are never closed. I’ve seen pictures of people at the summit, and the summit shack is nearly buried under a cornice. The mountain get more dangerous as snow builds up, so you want to be prepared for the conditions.

  138. Eric says:

    Hi Lori,
    The trail to Mt Nebo should be good all the way to the summit. I saw pictures from last weekend that shows some snow up there, but it shouldn’t be much of an obstacle. The knife edge from the false summit above Wolf Pass to the north summit isn’t really that bad. There are no boulders to navigate around like on Pfeifferhorn. It’s steep on both sides of the trail, but is wide enough to walk across without much fear of falling. You really don’t need to use your hands for climbing until you’re within a few hundred feet of the summit.

  139. JB says:

    Hey Sir,

    Just want to say thank you for putting together this website. I stumbled upon it last year and have since spent hours looking at your map planning out my next adventures. Any plans to expand the map’s range?

    Excellent work,

  140. Eric says:

    Hi, thanks, I’m glad you find it useful! I expand the map’s range as I get time, and opportunities to visit the areas. I added the trail south of Provo Canyon the winter of 2013. I’ve been working on verifying and refining them over the past 2 summers. I might complete the map down to Mt Nebo, and continue adding trails north of Parleys Canyon this winter. Stay tuned.

  141. Kylie says:

    I have friends who have a company that provides animals (bear, mtn lion, etc) for photo and film opportunities. They are looking into the SLC area for a photo group tour in future, but one of the troubles is the watershed of some of the canyons (no dogs, so likely no other animals). Are there some suggestions for areas that have wildflowers, creeks, tree groves, etc that are not far off of a car-accessed road (paved or dirt). Close to SLC would be best….. thanks!! Kylie

  142. Eric says:

    Hi Kylie, you’re correct – most of the canyons east of the Salt Lake Valley are off limits to animals because of watershed protection laws. The exception is Mill Creek Canyon. However, there are no such restrictions in the canyons on the east side of Utah Valley. Anywhere on the Alpine Loop, between Pine Hollow Trailhead and Aspen Grove, are great locations for photo shoots.

  143. kent says:

    I love this site so much! I just wanted to add a cool new resource for adventurers here in Utah! Rugged Utah is a Utah-based website where we focus on hikes and sights in this area. Come check us out and share ideas of what you want to see covered next!

  144. Lee PUgh says:

    When is the average ice off date for The Four Lakes Basin in the High Uintas? We are planning a fishing trip to the four lakes in the Basin for May 23-25, 2015. I was thinking that seamed a little early for that area. What do you think?

  145. Wade Zobell says:

    I would be interested in some good snow,shoe trails now,that it is winter. Any suggestions? I live in Utah Valley.

  146. Eric says:

    Hi Lee, sorry for the late reply. I’m not familiar with Uinta conditions. However, if those lakes are similar to higher elevation Wasatch lakes, you are probably correct, late May is about a month early for ice free lakes.

  147. Eric says:

    Hi Wade, I have 2 suggestions for finding snow shoe trails. First, check out this website: Next, if you want to join a group that snowshoes often, follow the “Hike the Wasatch” group on Facebook:

  148. Hannah says:

    Hello! What an amazing and informative website! I’m coming in from California for a conference in Snowbird in July. My husband and I would like to stay a few extra days and do a backpacking trip in the area. Do you have any recommendations? We’re looking for something that will be 3-4 nights (so up to ~35 miles?), preferably a loop, with plenty of water sources. We also prefer moderate difficulty (since we’re coming from sea level) but we’ll make do on a tough trail. I have no idea where overnight hikes are allowed and would appreciate any advice from a local! 🙂


  149. Michele says:

    Hi, love your trail map page I have been using it for a couple of years now, but when I tried to access it today, it wouldn’t work. Just showed a world map but no orange marked trails!

  150. Eric says:

    Hi Michele, The map stopped working because Google removed some of the code I used to overlay trails onto Google Earth. I located the missing code and am now running it from my local server, so the map should be back to normal. Let me know if you see any other issues.
    Thanks, Eric

  151. Eric says:

    Hi Hannah, Thanks! I’m glad you find the website useful. You can camp pretty much anywhere you want in the Wasatch, as long as you practice NLT principles. Permits not required. Most of the hiking in the Wasatch can be done as day hikes. but you can string them together for a longer hike. The Desolation trail and the Great Western trail are a couple of longer ones I have on my site. Also check out the map there for more ideas.

  152. Ryan Jackson says:

    I’m looking to hit Kings peak as early as possible this year. With the crazy early spring I’m hoping soon. Does anyone know where I can get current snow report for this area?

  153. Eric says:

    Hi Ryan,

    I’m not as familiar with the Uinta Mountains, where Kings Peak is located (this site covers the Wasatch Mountains). However, I did find this link that should be useful to you. Hover you mouse over the area where you want to go to see depth details:

  154. Ryan Burgess says:

    I was wondering what the conditions are like at lake hardy around this time of year. I know with the way the weather is this year that some conditions might be different: is there a lot of snow on the trail? or are things pretty cleared up? Thanks.

  155. Eric says:

    Hi Ryan, A hike to Lake Hardy right now will likely require snowshoes above 9000 feet. The snow is still several feet deep, and gets soft as the day heats up.

  156. Scooter says:

    Your google map doesn’t work with chrome or IE.

  157. Eric says:

    Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Bad news for those who use the trail map on Google is phasing out support for the Google Earth plugin due to security concerns. IE has already done it and Firefox will soon follow. What this mean is the map will no longer be available through a browser. I will consider making the KML available for those who want to use it in the Google Earth desktop app. In the meantime, here’s a work-around that will fix the problem until December 2015:
    In your Chrome browser, type this: chrome://flags/‪#‎enable‬-npapi
    Find ‘Enable NPAPI’, and click on the ‘Enable’ link under it. Now close and re-open Chrome. The map should work for you now.

  158. Molly says:

    Great website! Thanks for making it. I have company visiting the first week of May. I’m wondering what easy to moderate hikes you recommend at this time of year? Salt Lake County, under 4 hours roundtrip would be ideal.

  159. Peter says:

    Hi there! I’m supposed to help my brothers scout troop find a relatively close to home (Orem) backpacking trip because they’re preparing to go take on kings peak in the summer. I was thinking that the Timpanogos Trail (Aspen Grove) would be a good one considering it’s about a 15 mile round trip. But I was curious as to your thoughts on that trail? Also I’m supposed to help teach them how to fish (leaders don’t know how lol) and I noticed there are 2 lakes up there, Hidden lake and Emerald lake. Anyways though, do you or anyone know if there are fish in either of the lakes and if so how is the fishing?

  160. Eric says:

    Hi Peter,

    The Aspen Grove to Mt Timp would be a great hike to get ready for Uinta backpacking. They could camp overnight near Hidden Lakes, Emerald Lake or in Timp Basin. However, you won’t have much luck fishing. Both lakes are fairly small and are not stocked. The best options I can think of for fishing is Silver Lake in AF Canyon, or either Red or White Pine Lakes in Little Cottonwood Canyon.

  161. Eric says:

    Hi Molly, You can put those criteria into the form on the home page of to get a list. Some of my recommendations include Catherine Pass from Brighton, Dog Lake from Mill D, Mt Wolverine or Sunset Peak from Alta. You might run into some snow, but it should be easy to hike on, especially early in the day before it softens up.

  162. Mike says:

    Hey Eric,

    I am planning a 3 day 2 night hike for about a dozen scouts ages 14-17. Do you have any suggestions of a loop that may include some decent fishing?



  163. Malin says:

    Awesome website Eric. It’s been a huge help giving us (my girlfriend and I) areas to go explore. It looks like you get asked this question a lot and you seem to have a good idea on the matter. We wanted to head out and backpack from Tibble Fork up to Pittsburgh and fish at Pittsburgh. We are just worried about the snow and fishing. Any clue what Pittsburgh would be like this time of year (April 30th-May 1st)?

  164. Eric says:

    The road is still closed at Tibble Fork. I suspect there is still some snow up there, but not so much as to make it impassible. Go early in the day before it gets slushy. I think Pittsburg Lake is stocked with fish, but check the Utah division of wildlife resources before leaving.

  165. Sarah says:

    Hey there, we’ll be in the Wasatch area this summer (2nd week of July) and looking for an epic 4-5 day backpacking trip (30-40 mile). I wonder if you could suggest a loop that would be snow- free at that time? Or a short length that has a good base camp option for side trips? Am not familiar with your snowpack levels – thanks!

  166. Alan says:

    I am a photographer who will be hiking around Zion, Bryce and Arches areas end of May. I am looking for helpful information as to what to pack and what areas to visit for great photos…??? Any info is helpful. Thanks!!

  167. Eric says:

    Hi Mike,

    The Wasatch mountains don’t have many areas that fit your criteria. The Uinta mountains, however, fit the bill perfectly. There are many lakes to fish, and loop hikes where you can spend several days or more.


  168. Eric says:

    Hi Sarah,

    Most mountains should be snow free by the 2nd week of July this year. You could try a long distance trail, such as ‘The Great Western Trail’ or the ‘Desolation Trail’. Good base camps for day hikes include Albion Basin, Granite Flat, Aspen Grove or Rock Canyon CG.


  169. Eric says:

    Hi Alan,

    It won’t be too hot in southern Utah parks in May. Pack as you normally would for chilly spring hikes. Most any place in the parks are good locations for great photos. It’s probably a matter of taste. Search photo web sites for additional suggestions.


  170. Alan says:

    Thanks Eric, I didn’t know whether to pack hot or cold clothes. I was hoping to photograph some slot canyons while I’m there. I don”t plan on doing any repelling or swimming but wondered if there were any suggestions on canyons easier to maneuver with camera gear, yet where the walls are fairly close together? Also, after watching some videos have noticed that I might have to hike through some knee-high water and wondered which water shoes would work best for that? I have some waterproof Merrell’s for most of the hike but realize if I hit knee deep water, I may have to switch out to another choice. Someone recommended Teva to me…….thoughts?

  171. Matt says:

    Hey, thanks for this cool site. A friend and I have a 3-day window near salt lake and are considering a trip in the wasatch range. Can you suggest a strenuous, perhaps even technical/semitechnical, 30day hike for two experienced hikers/mountaineers? We are flying in so can’t bring all kinds of gear, but will have e.g. a short (30M) mountaineering rope & harnesses. But plain old hiking would also be excellent — preferably somewhere relatively lonely. Thank you!


  172. Eric says:

    Hi Matt, The most inaccessible place in the Wasatch Mountains is Hogum Canyon. You would have a strenuous hike in, unlikely to see anyone else, and the canyon is surrounded by cliffs several hundred feet high. Start at White Pine Trailhead; follow it into Red Pine Canyon, then Maybird Canyon. The trail ends there, and you would have to routefind your way into Hogum Canyon. You could also climb Pfeifferhorn via Red Pine Canyon to get a view of the terrain before dropping into Hogum. Have fun!

  173. Eric says:

    Hi Alan, Unfortunately, I can’t give you any more local information about the slot canyons in southern Utah – I don’t get down that way much. The Wasatch Range that this website covers is in northern Utah. As for water shoes – I wear the non-waterproof Merrell Moab Ventilators. They dry out quickly after getting wet.

  174. Sue says:

    Hi Eric:
    I’m looking for a southern route to the summit of Mt. Raymond (not via Baker Pass). I know some type of trail exists–heard other hikers talk about it–maybe from the Porter Fork Pass??? Looks like one has to completely get by the cirque on the PF side in order to have a chance to get to the top, and the south side looks to be the least radical. Do you have any info? Can you rate the difficulty of access? Also, at White Fir Pass on Bowman Fork, there is a little used trail that cuts away from the main trail (to Baker Pass) and heads down towards Porter Fork. Do you know anything about where it ends up?

  175. sarah says:

    Wanting to take my kids on family friendly Cecret Lake hike tomorrow….early June are we going to run into too much snow? What is best time of year to do Cecret Lake?

  176. Julie says:

    I want take my 11 year old daughter on her first backpacking overnight we. Hoping to do so in the wasatch so that we don’t have a huge drive just for overnight. Any suggestions? I was thinking about walking to dog lake (at the base of Reynolds) and camping out. Can one camp there? Hoping to go this weekend.

  177. Brandon says:

    Hi Eric, you may want to modify the information for your hike Desolation Lake from Willow Heights TH
    via Desolation Peak. There is no direct trail connection from Willow Lake to Desolation Peak/Lake, not unless you bushwhack cross country.

  178. Eric says:

    Hi Brandon, you are correct. That doesn’t stop people from hiking that route though. You will also find many routes to Wasatch peaks are also not trails, but just a general bushwacking paths to the top. I include them on the map so people have a general idea, and to encourage them to explore a bit.

  179. Eric says:

    Hi Julie, sorry for the late reply – I didn’t get the notification on this one. Your idea to camp at Dog Lake (at the flat just south of it) is a great idea.

  180. Eric says:

    Cecret Lake is a beautiful destination year round, but late June to early November are best.

  181. Eric says:

    Hi Sue, I included a southwestern route on the map. There is not a trail, but it looks like a good bushwacking route. I haven’t tried it myself though, so I can’t tell you what it’s like.

  182. Bob says:

    Has anyone hiked from Brighton Ski Resort through Catherine Pass and then over into Silver Lake in American Fork Canyon? If so, what is the route from Catherine Pass to Silver Lake and the length of the overall hike? Also, what you would recommend for stopping points?

  183. Bob says:

    Has anyone hiked from Albion Basin and followed the Peaks west down to Draper? If so, how long and how technical? Albion Basin to Devil’s Castle, Sugarloaf Peak, Mt. Baldy, Hidden Peak, AF Twin Peaks, Red Top, Red Baldy, West Pass, White Baldy, No Name Baldy, Pfeifferhorn, UPWOP, South Thunder, Big Horn Peak, Lone Peak and then down to Orson Smith Trailhead.

  184. Eric says:

    I met a guy last year on Pfeifferhorn who was doing that same route. I don’t have his contact info though. Go to Facebook, look up the group “Wasatch PeakBaggers” and ask the same question. I’m certain you’ll get plenty of advice from that group. Also google “the Bullion Divide” “The Beatout trail” and “Alpine Ridge”.

  185. Eric says:

    I don’t know anyone who has done it in 1 stretch, but it is possible. Brighton, Catherine Pass, Albion Basin, Cecret Lake, Big Baldy, Hidden Peak, AF Twins, Red Top, Red Baldy, Silver Glance, Silver Lake. You should be able to do that in a day. If you want to make it an overnighter, Silver Glance is the best place to camp along that route.

  186. Bruce Hamilton says:

    Can you recommend a book covering the history of exploration, mining, and hiking in the Wasatch Mountains? My immediate question is: we have Mill A Basin, Mill B North and South, and Mill D North and South. What happened to “Mill C”?

  187. Eric says:

    The best book for history and names in Millcreek, Little and Big Cottonwood Canyons is “The Lady in the Ore Bucket” by Charles L. Keller. It’s a great read. The “Mill” Canyons were named after log mills built in the area. Mills were given the letter designation in the order they were built. The Canyon now known as Mule Hollow was previously known as Mill C North Fork, making Stairs Gulch previously Mill C South Fork.

  188. Alyssa says:

    Hi, I’m new to backpacking and looking for a great 2 night 3 day backpacking trip. I’d like to stay within an 1.5 hours of downtown SLC. Any trail suggestions?

  189. greg rudowsky says:

    wow i travel in rv fultime and lok for trails/hikes all over… u are the first to have all the trails in one file,so nice, i usually spend hours trying to do what you did(find all the tracks in small files and combine them into one) tyks grat job here 2 more weeks

  190. Eric says:

    The best trail that fits your description is the Desolation trail to Desolation Lake. It starts in Millcreek Canyon at the Desolation/Thayne Canyon TH, and goes by several peaks and lakes. I think you’ll like it.

  191. Cameron says:

    Is the Bunnel’s Fork (Or is it Brunnel’s Fork) route to Cascade Mountain feasible without snowpack? I’ve been eyeing the route and Summit Post has only one report from a winter ascent in which the report writer assumes scrub oak would be a limiting factor in the summer. Any personal accounts of this route in the summer?

  192. Chris says:

    Can you have a small cooking fire at Dog Lake? I want to bike there early (on an even numbered day of course) and cook some breakfast, maybe take a dip, and head back.

    Also, are there fish in the Lake? Do people fish here?


  193. Meghan says:

    Where can I find out if I can camp and make a fire up Guardsman Pass right now?

  194. Eric says:

    Hi Megham,
    You can call the US Forest Service, Salt Lake District. They should be able to answer your questions.

  195. Eric says:

    Hi Cameron,
    It’s Bunnels Fork. I’ve heard it’s hikable year round, although I haven’t hiked it myself. The trail passes through private property. There are a few other good routes to the peak of Cascade Mountain. Ask your question to the “Wasatch Peak Baggers” facebook group. Several people there have experience with all the routes.

  196. Christel says:

    Hi Eric! Thanks for answering my question about whether it’d be safe for my sons’ scout troop to hike up to Lone Peak last year. They did it! Everything went well and they loved it! Now I’d like to have your opinion again on the activity they have planned for this coming Friday… They want to hike to the summit of Mount Timpanogos at night, starting at Timpooneke. Their plan is to leave around midnight and hike all night long to get to the summit in time for the sunrise. Do you think it is safe for a group of teenage boys ranging 14-17 to do that (with 4 adult leaders)?

  197. Eric says:

    Hi Chris, I believe you can use a backpacking stove, but you should check with the forest service for current fire restrictions to be sure.

  198. Eric says:

    Hi, I’m glad your hike to Lone Peak went well. Many people do the Timpooneke trail to Timpanogos at night, especially on nights when there is a full moon. It’s kind of a local tradition. Don’t be surprised if there are a lot of cars at the trailhead when you get there. Just stick to the trail and take headlamps. Also, there are 4 junctions where people often take the wrong trail, so be sure to look at it on a map or in Google Earth before you go. The fist junction is right out of the parking lot. If you walk by the shack with the sign-up sheet, you’re on the right path. The next is at Scout Falls. You need to go right at the switchback. If you get to a place where you have to climb up the roots of a tree, you went the wrong way. The last 2 are in Timp Basin. Go left at the junction with the toilet sign, and right at the next one. Have fun!

  199. Shannon says:

    Hi Eric, I have a couple of questions. there is a group of 4 of us wanting to hike up to Timp basin and camp then get up early and do the summit. My questions are 1. I have been up the Timponokee side but not the aspen side, I am wondering about water I can’t pack a ton with me. Also do you know what a average time to summit from the basin is? any other suggestions would be great I have only been up Timp once. Thanks.

  200. Mary says:


    I think I know what the “Alta Cat” is on your map near Catherine’s Pass at Alta, but will you explain? Is it a dead tree? I think I see it in the winter when skiing at Alta.

    Thanks for the maps. Very helpful.

  201. Eric says:

    Hi Mary, could you tell me where you saw that? I looked on my map, and don’t see it. The only thing I can think of that it might be is Alta ski resort builds a temp road every year from the Albion Basin Road up Grizzly Gulch to the Honeycomb Cliffs area with a Cat – Cat tracks.

  202. Eric says:

    Hi Shannon, are you hiking up the Aspen Grove trail? If so, you will probably want to camp in Hidden Lakes Basin or near Emerald Lake. From that trail, you would have to drop down about 300 feet from Emerald Lake to camp in Timp Basin. If you stick to the standard trails, both routes are about the same distance, but Aspen Grove starts about 400 feet lower. There is some water along the Aspen Grove trail, the last being at Emerald Lake. The Timpooneke trail has less water this time of year, and none after you get into Timp Basin.

  203. Joe says:

    Hi, I’m going to be in Salt Lake around the 3rd of November. I’m looking for an over night 2 day hike that’ll get me into the mountains, preferably to a lake. I’m an experienced hiker who’ll be using a hammock set up. If you could recommend a few hikes, I’d appreciate it. Having never hiked in your area, I don’t know what your normal weather is like in early November. I’ve seen some great lake hikes but wonder if it’s late in the season for those? Any help would be greatly appreciated! PS are bears enough of a risk to warrant buying some bear spray before setting out? I’m well versed in hiking/camping in those environments; just not sure what the risk is in your area. Thank you!


  204. Eric says:

    Hi Joe, To find a overnight hike you will enjoy, I recommend you look at the map on the main page to get familiar with where the 6 main canyons of the central Wasatch are located. You can camp near any lake (with a 200 ft buffer using ‘Leave No Trace’ principles). The 3 Salt Lake canyons have many great choices. Scroll to the bottom of the main page, and click on the canyon links to see your options.
    The weather will be chilly in early November, and there may be snow, but not likely. Bears are not an issue in the Salt Lake County canyon.

  205. Walt says:

    Great resource. We were in the area for a short time and found a great hike with views. Couple notes: The Mill B North TH is actually on the south side right by the Mill B South TH. And while it doesn’t actually have a toilet, the South TH does and is only a few steps away.

  206. Jesse says:

    Hi Eric,
    I’m going to be in SLC in late October and would like to do a day hike. I’ve only hiked a handful of times and it’s been years. I’m very active so would like something that’s a challenge but also good for a novice. Which trails would you recommend? I’m staying downtown if there is anything that wouldn’t require renting a car…but could if need be. Thanks so much!

  207. Eric says:

    Hi Jesse, My best advice for you is to go to and fill out the form to find something you like. Choose Millcreek Canyon to get hikes close to downtown. Also check the boxes for a short hike at an easy pace. You can then click on the results to view trail descriptions, photos, videos and other links to find one that sounds good. The Pipeline trail in that canyon fits your criteria.

  208. Brady McCleary says:

    I’m trying to find a trail or area near big cottonwood canyon that I am most likely to see deer, any suggestions?

  209. Eric says:

    Hi Brady, Deer are evenly distributed throughout Big Cottonwood Canyon. Chances of seeing deer on any one trail is just as good as another. The best way to see them is to just out on a trail. You can increase your chances by keeping noise and talking to a minimum while you’re hiking. Also, hanging out near water sources at dawn and dusk will also increase your chances.

  210. Loren says:

    Is there anywhere that people are posting current trail conditions, eg. snowy, muddy, etc.? Thanks

  211. Eric says:

    The best place for that information is to ask your question on the “Hike The Wasatch” group Facebook page. People in the group are always in the mountains, daily or several times a week.

  212. Hi, I love your site and come here often. I also enjoy your wasatchhiker.kml and your overlays for the trails – they really help out. I’m trying to learn how to add those. I’m a mountain runner so really love the guides and the details you provide.

  213. Eric says:

    Hi Christopher, I’m glad you find the site useful. You can add new trails to the KML by importing it into Google Earth. That’s where I do all my modifications. There’s a button at the top with an image of 3 dots connected by lines. Click on that, then start clicking on the map to add the new trail.

  214. Jenn says:

    Hi, I am fairly new to Salt Lake City and I am looking for some short hiking trails (take no longer than 3 hours round trip) near the area that offer good views but do not require snowshoes in the winter. Any suggestions? I was thinking about Donut Falls, but see mixed reviews about the necessity for snowshoes. Thanks!

  215. Eric says:

    Most any trail you find in will have packed trails within a day or two after any storm, especially in the Salt Lake canyons. You only need snowshoes if you plan to go off trail, or deeper into the backcountry.

  216. Kate says:

    Hi There! What a wonderful website! My husband and I will be taking an anniversary trip to Park City at the end of June. I was wondering if you could suggest a short but BEAUTIFUL hike that we could take (preferably not too far from Park City) to watch the sunrise? I would LOVE to capture some gorgeous sunrise pictures to take home with us! I appreciate it!! 🙂

  217. Angee says:

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge on this site. This morning we were at the Schoolhouse Springs First Hamongog and were wondering how much farther to the Second Hamongog (which we had never been to). Thanks to your accurate description we made it.

  218. Eric says:

    Hi Kate, I’m not as familiar with the Park City side of the Wasatch. One spot you might enjoy is Jupiter Hill or Tri-County Peak, both at the top of the Park City Mountain Resort.

  219. Brandon f says:

    Hey awesome site! Love your Google earth package. Best map ever! I was wondering, when do most of the peaks here usually clear off from snow? I can’t wait to get up their but don’t want to deal with avalanche danger

  220. I so love your site and hike descriptions. I also really enjoy your KML overlay that makes it really easy to see the trails in Google Earth. I’ve learned how to add a path and when I map out one close to me here that isn’t on your list, I’ll send it to you. It’s up Battle Creek Canyon and then north(ish) to the top of Little Mountain. It’s not well traveled, but it is followable for those with experience.

  221. Keith says:

    Are there any places to pitch a tent when hiking Mount Olympus?

  222. Tanner Rozier says:

    Hey thanks so much for this amazing website! It’s so helpful! Have you ever tried hiking from slate canyon up to horse mountain TH then up to the ridge to traverse over Corral, Provo, Freedom, Cascade etc. and then down the north side of cascade, like a super 20+ mile cirque? We’re thinking of doing it this summer

  223. Jeff says:

    Great site! I was planning to take a group of Young Men to Upper Lake this upcoming weekend (May 20). It looks like that may still be too cold and probably still some snow up there. What else would you recommend up American Fork Canyon that is around 4-5 miles round trip and has a good place to camp for the night. We will be back packing. Thanks!

  224. Eric says:

    Hi Jeff, you are right, there will still be snow at Silver Lake. The Alpine Loop road is still closed to traffic, but you can still walk up it. There are many places to camp near the road. Two places are Salamander Flat and Timpooneke camp areas.
    Happy camping, Eric

  225. Eric says:

    Hi Tanner, I have not tried that, but it sounds fun! If you want to meet up with people who love similar adventures, look up “Wasatch peak Baggers” on facebook. Those people do this kind of stuff all the time.

  226. Eric says:

    Hi Keith,

    Yes, there are a few places to pitch a tent near the trail to Mt Olympus. There are a few just below the Shoulder and the final stretch to the peak.

  227. Eric says:

    Hi Christopher, glad you like the site. Yes, if you have KML for trails not on my map, send them to me at [email protected], and I will add them to the master map.
    Thanks!, Eric

  228. Eric says:

    Hi Brandon,
    Snow in the high elevation can last into July. However, avalanche danger drops in the April-May timeframe.

  229. Joey says:

    Will Box Elder Peak have too much snow to overnight hike this weekend? And are there good places for a hammock near the peak? Thanks!

  230. Eric says:

    Hi Joey, there is still a lot of snow up there. Depending on weather it might be slushy and hard to hike in. If you make it up, there are places to hang a hammock down near Community Flat, in the north saddle.

  231. John and Melissa says:

    Hey Eric,
    Thanks for the lift yesterday from Timpanooke TH back to Aspen Grove TH to complete our Timp peak hike. Great to meet you in person. Great site for exploring the Wasatch!

  232. Mike says:

    Eric, on the “Mount_Wolverine_from_Silver_Lake_TH_via_Patsey_Marley” hike, the Dog option says No, but looks like it has a line through it to remove it. The hyperlink isn’t working. Are dogs allowed?
    Thx sir

  233. Eric says:

    Hi Mike, Dogs are not allowed any place in Little or Big Cottonwood Canyons, due to watershed policies. The link is crossed out because it’s no longer a valid link. The people providing the information at Salt Lake County keep changing the URL, and I can’t always keep up. Thanks for letting me know.

  234. Hunter says:

    I wanted to hike Timp the 25th using the Timpooneke trail and my friend told me there was a sign posted on the trailhead saying that the trail is closed July 18 – August 8 from every Monday – Thursday for maintenance. Is that true?

  235. Eric says:

    Hi, I’m not sure. That sign wasn’t there two weeks ago when I was there. Check on Facebook with the group “Wasatch peak baggers” I know some of them were there a few days ago.

  236. Anthony says:

    Hi Eric, great site! I was wondering if it was possible to add the route numbers to the map? That would help in instances where all that is marked on the trail crosses or forks are the route numbers. Thanks!

  237. Stephanie says:

    Do you know if there is a site similar to this for trails in Davis County? This site is great!! Thanks for the information you’ve posted!

  238. Thomas says:

    Love the website. The Google Earth kml is awesome. I’m making an attempt to Dharma this weekend.

  239. Rose says:

    Hi, Is there any trail going from Mt Olympus to Gobblers Knob?

  240. Kelsie says:

    How is the cell service from the trailhead to the peak of Timp?

  241. Eric says:

    Hi Anthony, I’ve wanted to add trail numbers for quite a while, but haven’t found the time to do it yet. Watch for it in the future. Thanks for the suggestions!

  242. Eric says:

    Hi Stephanie, I know Farmington has a good trail system. Here’s a link to their map:

  243. Eric says:

    There’s no trail, but there is a route over Wildcat Ridge. There is quite a bit of exposure, so be confident in your mountaineering skills before attempting it.

  244. Eric says:

    Hi Kelsie, Cell reception is spotty on that trail. You will probably get good reception once you reach the saddle.

  245. Seth says:

    Eric, I read a news article about there being a forest fire up American Fork canyon a few months ago. I would like to go examine the area as a project for my Biology class. Do you know where exactly the fire was and the best way (roads/trails) to get to that area?


  246. Eric says:

    Hi Seth, the best source for Utah fire information is There was one fire in AF Canyon a few weeks ago, named the Tibble Fork fire. You can find details on that website.

  247. mike clancy says:

    Looking for approx 70-80 mile loop with great scenery. Strenuous is ok. preferably not crossing any roads. Late May early June. Is there such in the Wasatch mnts ?

  248. James says:

    Eric, I’m planning a multi night hike from Little Cottonwood to American Fork. Any suggestions on route or other pointers? We’ll likely start at top of Snowbird Tram and end at Tibble Fork. Many thanks, James

  249. Eric says:

    I have done that hike (via Mary Ellen Gulch). It’s very beautiful. Snowbird has put a road into Mary Ellen Gulch from Hidden Peak (tram terminus) since I did it, making it easier. The hike is 10 miles, and straight forward. The most beautiful part is the Gulch itself, which you could hike through via the road, or detour over Miller Hill. Once you get to the main AF Canyon road at Dutchman Flat(depending on when you go) you have to deal with a lot of dust from motorized traffic. Another route is to follow the road through Mineral Basin.

  250. Eric says:

    There is not such a trail in the Wasatch. The closest are the desolation trail or the Great Western Trail. Your best bet in Utah is to hike in the Uintas.

  251. Daniel Bradford says:

    Eric, love the website. It’s been a huge help in getting me to appreciate all the beauty Utah has to offer. My friends and I are big hikers, and we were wondering if it’s possible to hike all the way along the Alpine Ridge, starting at Alta, going all the way across different peaks and ending at Lone Peak, then descending from there. Have you heard of such a route?

  252. Adrian says:

    Thank you for your site, it is great!

    One question: In using the KML provided for Google Earth can it be assumed that all orange lines are established trails that are easy to follow? Or are some of them just suggested routes without trails?


  253. Bobby says:

    Wondering if you have mileage from timpnooeke parking lot to pine hollow peak?

  254. Eric says:

    It’s about 4.5 miles with 1700 ft elevation gain.

  255. Eric says:

    The orange lines can be class 1/2 (regular hiking trails), class 3 (use of hands needed to balance and climb) or class 4 (climbing with increased danger). Most are easy trails, but some are unmarked routes.

  256. Eric says:

    Hi Danny,
    There are several unofficial trails in the area you mention. The Bullion Divide Trail goes from Albion Basin, crosses over the Sugar Loaf, Hidden Peak, AF Twins, Red Stack, Red Baldy, White Baldy and drops down Red Pine Canyon. The Beatout Trail goes up Red Pine Canyon, crosses White Pine, Pfeiferhorn, Lightning Ridge, South Thunder and drops down into Bells Canyon, where you have to beat your way out. The W.U.R.L. (Wasatch Ultimate Ridge Linkup) starts by climbing Lone Peak, crosses the whole Alpine ridge with all it’s peaks, follows the ridge over to the Cottonwood ridge where it traverses all the peaks on that ridge to Broads Fork Twins.

  257. Bobby says:

    I’m trying to find a map of the Great Western Trail though Utah.. Trying to plan a back pack trip top to bottom. It doesn’t seem like they’re is a cohesive map. Do you have any thoughts?

  258. RaeDawn says:

    I am hiking Timp for the first time next week, How does it compare to Lake Blanche Or Sunset Peak (from the Brighton side) ?

  259. Eric says:

    Hi Bobby,
    I’ve also looked for a good GWT map, and have not been successful. Even their official site ( does not have one. If you find one, please let me know.
    Thanks, Eric

  260. Eric says:

    Hi RaeDawn, A Timp hike is much more difficult than Lake Blanche or Sunset. The two main routes are around 16 miles round trip, with 4500 feet of elevation gain. Still, if you haven’t hiked Timp, you need to do it at least once in your life. It’s an unforgettable hike.

  261. Heidi says:

    Is it too late to hike Timp this time of year? What extra equipment would be required?

  262. Eric says:

    Hi Heidi, You can still climb Timp with summer equipment. The snow we received last week was just a trace, and should melt off quickly. However, You might need warmer layers.

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